Colon And Liver Cleanse Helps Candida

Detox With Castor Oil, or Olive Oil, or Grated Apple:  There really is no need to buy expensive products to cleanse the liver and intestines. There are many home remedies which you can use to do this, but the cheapest and most effective  method for a Candida/Colon Cleanse that I know of is the castor oil cleanse which is followed up by a bowel cleanse with water and a little sea salt. All you need is a bottle of castor oil which, in New Zealand, costs between about three dollars to about six dollars, depending on whether you buy it at a supermarket or a chemist shop. Of course, this will last for about seven doses or so, as you only need to take between one to two tablespoonsful in one dose.

The CASTOR OIL treatment, which is usually two tablespoons of castor oil taken in the morning followed by a cup of brewed black coffee without sugar or milk, is effective for ridding candida from the digestive system. Eat only fruit or a bowl of porridge with a grated apple added to it on the day when you decide to do the castor oil treatment. Avoid dairy products, wheat and meat on the day you do your cleanse.

If you are not suffering from some life threatening disease and feel that you are quite healthy, then you can get away with using castor oil and not using an enema. However, even if you are healthy and you do not have too many accumulated poisons in the body, the castor oil cleanse is far more effective if you use a water enema, as this helps to wash away the poisons, which the castor oil expels from the liver, more quickly.

If you do not have some life threatening disease or recurring candida, then you could use the castor oil treatment only occasionally, say once a week, or once a month, whatever you think is necessary. However, if you have recurring candida, allergies or some illness which is debilitating, then you might need to use this treatment more often, and follow a strict dietary programme in order to get well.

Another inexpensive Candida/Colon Cleanse is OLIVE OIL WITH LEMON JUICE. Take this on an empty stomach before you eat a light breakfast of fruit, or juice, or porridge with a grated apple added to it. Use half a cupful of OLIVE OIL. Fill up the cup with LEMON JUICE.  Stir  the two together briskly in a larger cup and swallow the lot as quickly as you can. This treatment is made more effective, as is the castor oil treatment, if an enema is used within five hours of taking the oil. This cleanse is also made more efficacious if dairy foods, wheat and meat are avoided on the day you do your cleanse. Try to eat only raw foods and their juices for the whole day, with a bowlful of porridge  being the only cooked food, eaten with a grated apple. This diet enhances the cleansing effect of the OLIVE OIL AND LEMON treatment, giving an inexpensive candida/colon cleanse.

Drink peppermint tea or chamomile tea directly after using either CASTOR OIL or OLIVE OIL AND LEMON JUICE to alleviate any feelings of nausea.

Both the castor oil treatment and the olive oil and lemon juice treatment, besides both being an inexpensive candida/Colon Cleanse,  are supposed to be helpful,  in expelling gall stones and kidney stones from these organs.

Acupressure Tone-up for Anthony

Acupressure To Help Reverse Cancer:  Hi Anthony. Here is a very simple tone-up routine  which you can add to your self-help recovery plan to beat cancer.  It is designed to help reactivate your immune system by stimulating various points which are related to the chakra system.

Do this routine for the next week.

With this treatment, you need only press each point three times. No more, otherwise the nervous system might get upset. Just enough to tone things up a tad.

Very top of skull

Either side of each eye, about  an inch away

Just behind ear, level with bottom of ear lobe, at base of skull

Centre of chin

Top of throat just above adam’s apple

Between arm and trunk just by the top of the arm pit

Breastbone centre

Underside of rib cage, on the lower side of the bone near the liver area

Both hands over the solar plexus. Press fingers in lightly and take a breath in and out.

On the back in the centre of the muscle area covering the area just behing the hip bone. Kidney area.

Either side of spine, 2″ above the spine base.

Top of thigh, at centre, in the groin area.

Halfway down thigh at centre.

On the inner side of leg, level with the top of the kneecap and about an inch away.

To outer side of kneecap, outisde of leg at the midpoint of kneecap area

Move down 2″ from this last point. Again – three presses.

Now knead down calf muscle, squeezing calf muscle just once at each spot as you move down.

Move to inner leg, about 6″ up from ankle. Press thumbs in as you move down towards the ankle joint

Top of foot towards the inner side of centre of foot – between the big toe tendon and the first toe tendon

Move to ankle bone area – squeeze the soft area either side and just below ankle bone.

Turn the feet up and press the thumbs into the very centre of the sole of the foot, in the arch area.

Hands to solar plexus. Hold. Breathe in. Hands to brow. Breathe out.

Cancer Diet for Anthony

Diet Castor Oil and Enemas:  Hello Anthony, I haven’t heard how you are getting along. I hope you are managing to keep positive about life and that you have started the programme. There really is nothing to lose by giving it your best shot if allopathic medecine cannot help you any longer. If you have had chemotherapy and radiation, then your immune system will be weakened considerably. This makes it harder to recover on a mainly raw foods and enema/castor oil programme, but some people have achieved this. It IS possible.

Determination is the key. An understanding of how the treatment works is also necessary, because then you will put all your effort into doing the things that will make you well: detoxifying the body quickly is imperative if you are to beat the growth of the cancer and assist the immune system into doing its work effectively again.
Leaving out some things completely also assists the immune system: all coffee, tea, alcohol, dairy products must be omitted for the duration of your recovery. (except for the coffee taken with castor oil, and possibly coffee enemas)

There are three main constituents of the programme which serve to help the body detoxify quickly: Diet, Castor Oil, and Enemas. I have included Vitamin C as the fourth detoxifyer, with Breathing and Exercise as the fifth detoxifyers:
1. Diet – Mainly raw foods, with a large plate of oatmeal porridge every morning, eaten with a grated apple. The bulk of raw foods, and the porridge also, helps to clean out the digestive system including the bowel. The intestines are where most problems start for people, as old undigested food sits around in pockets where putrefying organisms breed. Toxins from eating mucous forming foods (such as milk and cheese, wheat bread, to name a few) which are not digested or eliminated properly from the bowel, can lead to cancer cells taking off. Often our diets do not include enough raw food in proportion to the cooked foods we are eating. Roughage in the form of raw foods is important in treating cancerous conditions and other degenerative disease. Also, once the bowel is clean and more raw foods, and later, cooked vegetables, are included in the diet, the digestion improves as your intestines become capable of absorbing more of the nutrients from the food you eat.
The diet for treating degenerative disease is a maintenance diet which is easily digested and cleansing: – juices and raw foods provide optimum nutrition which aid the immune system and healing; – at the same time, a drastic reduction in acid-forming foods, cooked food and mucous-forming foods helps prevent the cancer from growing.
Note: Almonds and two raw egg yolks per day can be included in the diet after an initial period of cleansing which should take about three weeks.
Use plenty of garlic right from the beginning of the treatment: try to have some with your salads or right after each meal.
Apricot kernels, or peach or nectarine kernels, contain laetrile and cyanide which have been found to be helpful in treating cancer and reducing growths. Almonds contain small amounts of laetrile and cyanide. I used organic apricot kernels in my treatment of a breast lump. Following the guide lines I have given in this and the first post to you, it took three months for the lump to reduce dramatically, then another three months before it disappeared. I began with about 3 or 4 apricot kernels a day, and gradually increased the amount to 9 per day which were taken two or three at a time after meals. If you include apricot kernels in your diet, then it is imperative that you follow through with the enema treatment, otherwise too much cyanide will remain in the intestines. Nine kernels a day is a safe amount considering that regular enemas will eliminate the excess cyanide from the system.
2. Castor Oil. This is a great detoxifyer which is helpful in cancerous conditions. Castor oil has powerful healing properties. It also has the ability to attract poisons, most importantly, poisons from the liver and bowel, which are then easily eliminated, via the castor oil,from the body.
3. Enemas. These are very important. The more severe your sickness, the more developed the cancer, then the more the urgency to get cracking with enemas which will speed up the detoxification process.
4. Vitamins. Some healers, like Walter Last, believe that extra vitamins are not necessary if you are on a diet which is 90% raw food with plenty of fresh fruit and vegetables eaten and their juices drunk. However, I have found CALCIUM ASCORBATE Vitamin C powder, which is a non-acidic form of vitamin C, to be very helpful in helping to reduce toxins from the body and in aiding healing. Vitamin C in large doses has been found to reduce the pain of cancer, which is another good reason to invest in a quality non-acidic form of vitamin C such as calcium ascorbate.
1000 mg morning and night should be taken if you have a life-threatening disease. Every second morning, on the day which you will take your castor oil, you should take the Calcium Ascorbate powder or tablets first thing in the morning, or at lunch time, two hours before or after the dose of castor oil. This is so that the effect of the vitamin C will not be negated by taking the vitamin C too close to the castor oil.
5. Breathing. Meditation. Exercise. These all help one way or another to relieve stress, help create peace within the mind, and to oxygenate the body. Best of all, do the ‘Exercise for Increasing Prana’ breathing exercise three times a day. Do ‘Yoga Nidra’ deep relaxation, or the ‘Yoga of Sleep” every day, preferably after lunch.

Radiation and Electrical interference. While you are recovering, try to steer clear of high tension wires, cell phone towers, big transformers at the front of houses. Make sure you are sleeping at least 12 feet away from the electricity meter box in the house where you are living. Try to ascertain where the main power supply runs into the house and towards the meter box and keep clear of this. Electrical interference can undermine one’s health rapidly and interfere with healing. Minimalize use of your cell phone, and keep it in another room from where you sleep. If you are doing your meditation or Yoga Nidra, then put the phone elsewhere. Avoid carrying it around with you.

PS Hi again Anthony. By now you will be going well with your cleansing programme and are hopefully into your second week or so. You could introduce the calf liver broth at this stage. Sip the juice throughout the day. I have put just put up a post on calf liver juice for cancer which gives the details on how it is made. All the best.

Diet And Detox For Cancer Programme for Anthony

Diet and Detox For Cancer:  Dear Anthony, Your dear sister whom I saw in Wellington has just told me that you have terminal cancer and that you cannot be helped any more by conventional medicine. I am sorry to hear that you are unwell.

You might feel that there is no hope left for your recovery. However, I would like to urge you to at least consider the possibility of beginning a treatment which could save your life. It requires much perseverance and requires you to be consistent with the routines, but apart from the routine nature of it all, it is really quite simple to do if you can put all other worries aside and just get on with it.

First, you need the support of at least one person, family or friend, so that you can devote yourself entirely to the business of detoxifying and getting well. I understand you have that support, so that’s a wonderful start.

Jacqui Davison had terminal cancer and was given only days to live. She had the support of her daughter whose house she was living in at the time. Her daughter persuaded her to begin the Gerson treatment for cancer. The main components of this treatment are enemas and castor oil. Enemas are taken several times a day, the castor oil you take every second day, 2 tablespoons in one dose after breakfast. Juices and raw foods are the other component, with a big plate of oatmeal porrridge at breakfast being the only cooked food you eat for some time. This is eaten with one grated raw apple.

Basically, this is a modified version of Gerson’s approach. I have drawn also from the teachings of Dr Ann Wigmore, Walter Last, Dr Eva Hill and Jacqui’s book and my own experiences to formulate a programme which I have found to be do-able. See if you can begin right away, as Jacqui did when she was told she was soon to die. She recovered completely. Read the other posts I have up on cancer, one called ‘Ridding the Body of Cancer’, one ‘Avoiding Cancer’.

Here is a programme I have worked out for you. I will give you more information tomorrow, but hope to get the basics of the programme posted up today:

7.00am Enema – half a teaspoon of sea salt in 1 litre warm water. The chemist shop in the mall at Karori will get you in an enema device. The idea is to repeat the wash-out several times until the water expelled is clear. After the first rinse, you can use more water in one wash-out – up to 3 pints in one rinse is a safe amount to use, after the first, initial rinse-out. The maxim is generally that if it is comfortable, then you can gradually increase the amount of water from the initial litre. With the first rinse-out, stop as soon as you feel any pressure – expel, and start again.
In the Higginson pack, which the Karori pharmacy will order for you, you will find two white tubes. Use the longer one, as the water needs to reach the lower colon in order to thoroughly cleanse the intestine. It is important to lie flat, or on one side for the water to be able to wash through the intestine.

7.15am Shower.

7.30am Have a glass of freshly juiced apple or carrot juice or a mixture of your choice.

7.45am Do the Rejuvenation breathing excercises which I have outlined under the post ‘Maximize your Prana Intake’. This routine only take 10 minutes. It is an extremely healing routine, as it helps to oxygenate the body whilst creating a peaceful state of mind. Easy to do – simply stand facing north with hands on the ribs. 10 deep breaths to start, then a couple of other variations and the routine is complete.

8.00am Another juice of either carrot, apple, beetroot or a combination. Follow this with a large bowl of porridge – about a cup of oats made the usual way. Grate one whole organic apple over the top and eat the lot, as is, without milk or sugar. A few dates could be added for sweetening, but nothing else. After a few weeks, olive oil can be added, but try to keep the diet very simple for the next three weeks.

9.00am Have a glass of apple, carrot, or a mixture of beetroot and apple juice, freshly juiced.

10.00am Another juice. Then take two tablespoons of castor oil followed by a cup of black coffee. Brew the coffee over the stove – about a heaped tablespoonful coffee grounds simmered for a couple of minutes or so in two and a half cups water. This coffee is not designed to be a treat – the caffeine in the coffee is employed to hurry up the liver in expelling poisons from the body, and to maximize the effect of the castor oil. Swallow one warm cupful immediately upon swallowing the castor oil. Save the remains to use as a coffee enema later. (coffee enemas are useful in alleviating pain)

Take a cup of peppermint tea or chamomile tea after the castor oil and coffee to help reduce nausea. Initially, you will feel very nauseous as the toxins from the liver are expelled, but this feeling dissipates the longer you continue with the castor oil/coffee treatment. This is because the toxins held inside the body become less and less with every passing day of continued treatment, so that there are less toxins to make you feel unwell. When you start to notice that you are not feeling so ill after taking the castor oil and coffee, then you know that you are succeeding. To help rid the feeling of nausea in the early stages of treatment, I found an enema to be necessary within an hour after taking the castor oil.

11.00am Take another juice.

12.00 noon. Rejuvenation Breathing Exercises again – 10 rounds followed by the sequence outlined in ‘Maximize Your Prana Intake’ post.

12.15 Another juice followed by a very large salad made up of any green vegetables such as lettuce, celery, rocket, parsley. Use plenty of freshly sprouted mung beans, alfalfa and other sprouts as the basis for the salad if you can. Sprouted beans and seeds supply the body with protein and are at the same time great detoxifyers which help the body stay alkaline.

Grate a beetroot and a carrot into the salad for variety.

1.00pm Another freshly juiced drink
Do 20 minutes to half an hour of ‘Yoga Nidra’ which is a deep relaxtion exercise based on age-old yoga practice. Look up the post I have on ‘Yoga Nidra”. It is very simple. Once you get the hang of it, you will be able to relax the body and mind easily at will. Practice is the key factor. Do it EVERY DAY after lunch. From now on, you have to let all distractions in your life go. Keep up the routine vigilantly until you are well. Social arrangements at the moment should be secondary to your treatment.

2.00pm Another freshly juiced drink. Eat some fresh raw fruit if you are hungry.

3.00pm Another freshly juiced drink. A cup of chamomile tea or another herbal combination could be taken for afternoon tea. Fresh fruit if you are hungry.

Take another enema – one litre warm water with a half teaspoon of sea salt. Do not use table salt as this has chemicals to make it ‘free flow’ which interfere with the body’s healing mechanism.

An enema within five hours of taking the castor oil is IMPERATIVE, especially in the first few months of treatment, as the toxins being expelled from the liver and other organs will be at a dangerous level. With time, as the body expels them, there will be less chance of auto-intoxication from the reabsorption of toxins in the bowel, as there will be fewer toxins to expel. This is why you feel less sick after the castor oil in time, as there are fewer toxins to make you feel sick after several months of treatment.

4.00pm Another fresh juice.

5.00pm Another fresh juice.

Do the Rejuvenation exercises for maximizing prana intake again

6.00pm Another fresh juice followed by another large salad with lots of mung bean and alfalfa sprouts.. Fruit if you are hungry.

Take another enema before bed. If you use a coffee enema, hold in for 10 minutes if you can. Then expel. Then rinse out bowel with warm water.

10.00pm Try to be in bed by ten so that you can do some positive reading and listen to soothing music. Get into spiritual books. Meditate. Pray. Do the breathing exercise for bed which is listed in my article on breathing exercises and sleeping well.

more tomorrow

Ridding the Body of Cancer

You Can Reverse Cancer:  Ideally, cancer prevention is what we should all be mindful of. But if you already have cancer, you might be exploring the alternatives to allopathic treatment.

Alternative cancer treatments are not just the domain of naturopaths, acupuncturists and homeopaths etc. Many conventional doctors have devoted their life-times to treating people by natural means.  In New Zealand, Dr Eva Hill pioneered natural remedies and cures  in  the early 19th century: Walter Last, more recently, helped many people in Whangarei. Dr Ann Wigmore, an American, contracted cancer, cured herself of it, then proceeded to treat other people using the methods she had proved successful. She set up a clinic in Australia after establishing her clinic in U.S.A.  Dr Max Gerson was another famous doctor who researched alternative cancer therapies: his clinic in Mexico still treats hundreds of people every year.These people have helped and cured many people of cancer and other degenerative disease. Their documentation which records their methods and their successes are extremely useful resources as proof that natural cures are possible.

Jacqui Davison, bedridden and  given only days to live after following conventional treatment, was encouraged by her daughter, who had just read Max Gerson’s book on treating people with cancer and other degenerative disease, to start detoxifying.  And so she immediately began taking castor oil every second day, using enemas  daily, and drinking juices, not because she really believed it would work, but because there was nothing to lose, and her daughter was adamant that she try. She lived not only to tell the tale, but to write a book about how she, with the help of  her daughter, had tackled the disease. I found her book to be enormously encouraging. Because it was an account of a lay person’s own  experience, it was very down-to-earth: a step-by-step account of her progress and the methods she used to beat the melanoma.

This article will endeavour to give a guide as to some possible alternative treatments you might consider. Examples will be drawn from my own experience, and from the teachings of the above doctors, and other therapists and teachers such as Jacqui Davison. You  then are best advised to discuss them with your health practitioner.

Years ago I became frightened by a lump in the breast. My health was run down. Emotionally, I hadn’t recovered from the loss of a child about five years earlier. Prior to this very sad event, my young son and I, and my unborn baby, had been aerial sprayed via helicopter with “2,4,5,T”, known as  “agent orange” in Viet-Nam, at our Hokianga home.  “2,4,5,T” was used frequently in New Zealand in the 1970’s as a defoliant, in this case, to rid the hillside of the blackberry which was prolific there. We were very ill after the spraying. Our  drinking water came from the stream which ran across our property, and so poisoning was thus intensified. It is probable that traces of this chemical were still in my body which lead to the development of a lump in the breast a few years later.

I was advised by a doctor to have a biopsy, and that I needed to take it seriously for the sake of my other children. I was grateful to this doctor, as he inspired me to do just that – take it seriously – without a biopsy. The warning was enough for me to change my life-style almost immediately.

I already knew that in some cases, putting the knife in can make things worse, and anyway, I really didn’t like the idea of having a breast off. So I armed myself with the available  literature  of the above authors’ works and began avidly reading.

Dr Ann Wigmore had been sure she had cancer of the breast, as she had seen enough cases of it to identify it when it occurred in her own body.  She changed her life-style and her diet immediately and went to live in the country  in a tent for a while, where she could breathe fresh air and meditate undisturbed. After six months her wheat-grass juice, raw foods and detoxification had brought about a recovery. But her medical colleagues said it couldn’t have been cancer if she had recovered without radiation and chemotherapy, or having it surgically removed. So she agreed to a biopsy to prove her point. The biopsy proved positive for cancer, but the opening of the area caused the cancer to start growing again. So she went back onto her cleansing diet and followed her chosen therapeutic techniques. This time the cancer was more vigilant, and it took her two long years before she had fully recovered.

If you have cancer or some other life-threatening disease, then you need to act promptly. Since a build-up of toxins accompanies the cancerous condition, it is imperative that you start a rapid detoxification programme right away. Personally, I think that even if you have opted for conventional treatment, detoxifying is important if you do not want the cancer to return. Of course, it is essential to combine the cleansing process with a diet rich in organic raw fruits and vegetable and their juices.

Dr Max Gerson believed that if you did not follow his dietary and cleansing regime to the letter, then it was a waste of time trying to cure yourself  naturally if you simply were to choose the elements of the programme which suit. His recipe was tried and true.

Consistency is extremely important whatever regime you choose. If you were to lapse once and, say, eat a plate of macaroni cheese or a slice of chocolate cake following your big salad and juice, then you would be negating the effects of the cleansing, nourishing food by putting clogging food that will feed the cancer into your bowel. This makes more toxins to clear out of the bowel. Even one instance like this can halt the healing of cancer and other disease. Done once, like smoking, it will be difficult not to partake again. This is why Dr Gerson was adamant you stick to his regime without any deviation.  However, there are many different techniques for treating cancer and other degenerative diseases, including conventional allopathic treatments and macrobiotic diets. A combination of treatments can work, but you must be consistent in following your chosen combination of therapies.  The main thing is to avoid forbidden foods completely. These are generally dairy foods, sugar, wheat and cooked food if you follow the recommendations of Eva Hill, Walter Last and Dr Gerson.  Detoxifying must continue, whatever diet you choose, with excellent nourishment taken in the form of non-mucous forming foods.

Each case is different, and each person capable of just so much determined effort. Sometimes our family support systems break down, or we get old and tired and cannot summon up the effort required to sustain a long period following a demanding dietary and detoxification programme. Our circumstances might restrict us as to the availability of organic food, expensive vitamins, and a  life devoid of stress.

But whatever the limitations, and whatever therapy you decide on, essentially, detoxification and maximum nourishment are  the keys to success. The two main elements of Dr Max Gerson’s treatment, apart from the diet of mainly raw foods and juices every hour, were the two detoxifyers – enemas and castor oil.

CASTOR OIL AND ENEMAS: Dr Gerson found castor oil to be the most excellent purgative and healing agent. I used this treatment to rid myself of the breast lump. Two tablespoons are taken  every second morning followed by a cup of black coffee. This has an immediate effect on the liver and gall bladder, exciting these organs to expel toxins stored there. Castor oil has the ability to attract poisons and carry them off, so it is very powerful in helping to cure cancer.

This is only HALF the treatment for expelling toxins rapidly from the body. Dr Gerson found that, initially, his most fragile patients would seem better after the castor oil. But after the third day, they grew worse. He figured out that this had to be because the toxins expelled by the liver were not being carried away fast enough by the bowel, but were being reabsorbed into the blood stream which caused auto-intoxication. This was dangerous, as a life-time of stored toxins were being released suddenly and then being taken into the bloodstream via the walls of the intestine.

One thing for it – ENEMAS. He began using enemas within five hours after the castor oil was taken, and then again several times later in the day. He found his success rate of survivors, many of whom were on death row, increased dramatically after he introduced regular enemas into the routine.

Most people, especially men, are extremely reluctant to put an enema tube into the “you know what”. The fact is, if you have a terminal illness, then you cannot be so proud. Washing the bowel out in order to rid the body quickly of those killer toxins is IMPERATIVE for your SURVIVAL. The more advanced the cancer, the more rigorous the methods needed to stop the cancer in its progress.

Dr Gerson used coffee enemas as well as water enemas. Coffee, taken through the rectum, caused the liver and gall bladder to release poisons quickly, intensifying the effect of the castor oil.
Coffee enemas have the effect of reducing pain, which is helpful in treating cancer and other conditions like arthritis.

I used coffee enemas perhaps once or twice a day as part of my detoxification programme. I have experimented in recent years with coffee enemas to clear the liver, but I find the caffeine gets absorbed into the blood stream which is not desirable at all. This might be because I have weak-walled intestines, and/or it might also be because I have become a coffee drinker in recent years. When you are on this detoxifaction programme, you must NOT drink coffee at all – only once every second day after that dose of castor oil. This really puts you off drinking coffee for pleasure while you are “taking the cure”.

NOTE: The regular washing of the bowel as in the Gerson treatment should not be done unless you have a serious illness. Then you will be taking castor oil as recommended, and following a diet in optimum nourishment. If you were to take frequent enemas and doses of castor oil without replenishing your vitamin-mineral intake through copious amounts of raw juices and foods, and supplements,then you will become severly depleted, as the “good” vitamins and minerals get washed out along with the toxins.

Vitamin C has been used by many to diminish cancer growth and help arthritic and other degenerative conditions. Ian Gawler who wrote ‘You Can Conquer Cancer’ (Hill of Content Publishing, Melbourne, 1984) reports that he has successfully used Vitamin C in the treatment of cats which had confirmed cases of lymphosarcoma. Four out of five cases went into total remission after being given intravenous doses of Vitamin C. He used 1 gram per kilogram of body weight, five days in a row.His treatment of dogs, using the same method, was not so successful.